Evangelist Chukwuebuka. A. Obi remains one of Nigeria’s most superlative men of God with distinctive passion for spreading the gospel globally and winning many souls for God’s vineyard.
In a recently held media parley with selected journalists, the amiable preacher of the word talked vividly about himself, God’s work and other topical issues. MC PATO anchored the event which was organized by CMC founder Mr. Cornel Udofia. Excerpts:
Sir, as a father that you are, what is the state of the nation based on the fact you see things from the spiritual realm of which an ordinary man cannot see and then what can you say about the 2023 general elections in Nigeria?
As for Nigeria, I will always encourage my congregation to pray fervently for our country because right now, things are not the way they are supposed to be. There are many issues threatening the sovereignty of the country, so the state of the nation is honestly not the best.
This is the first time the youths are coming out to fight for their rights, before you will see the youths storming beer parlours or playing football on the streets, but this is the first time people are pushing to get their PVC. That shows that everybody is ready for change because nobody is enjoying the situation anymore, everybody is affected in one way or the other.
People are not even safe in their homes and in the bush; you are not safe even in the church. Bad roads, no electricity, the economy is collapsing, getting worse everyday so that is the situation right now. We are experiencing the hardest time in the history of this country, so my fatherly advice to everybody is that we should vote for the right candidate and not pray alone as we pray we go out to vote.
We should have a radical change in Nigeria because this is the only country where you will see children jumping and shouting up NEPA just for two minutes’ light. In other African countries electricity is a normal thing, people are used to it, but here in Nigeria people will be shouting and in the next few minutes’ darkness is back again. This is the only country where you will see bad roads everywhere and for the past years now our leaders, politicians have been promising us, l will do roads, l will fix roads, but all to no avail.
The worst of it today is that many of our youthful girls are into prostitution because there is no job. To come out from University, parents will suffer, parents will even sell their lands to train their children in the University and at the end there will be no job for them. That is why you see most of our students and graduates are Okada riders, and that is terrible. A nation that doesn’t have a plan for the youths is like a nation without a future. We are crying about no job, everywhere, l can bet it with you that Nigerian youths are very intelligent people, but they graduated and don’t have any work to do. What do you want them to do? That’s why you see high rate of prostitution, high level of kidnapping and all manner of crimes.
So, this coming election is an election in which we all must go out to vote for change and l pray that God will do something different this time around; because if it continues like this it will finally get to a brick wall. So, this is my fatherly advice and if you watch my previous programmes, l always pray for Nigeria and l will always tell people about Nigeria.
Sir, for the benefit of our readers out there, we want to know more about you and how this spiritual gift started?
As I said earlier, I am Evangelist Chukwuebuka A. Obi from Imo state, Nigeria. I was born into the family of Igwe Vincent Obi, a royal family. My mum started giving birth after eleven years, she gave birth to female children and she was crying to God to give her a male child, she made a vow to God. Oh Lord, bless me with a male child and if you do it I will sacrifice him to serve you like the case of Hannah and Samuel. You know Samuel was initiated in the womb by his mother. So that’s the same case with me. My mother said it was like a vision that she had two boys, l was given a name while in the womb. That we are going to serve the Lord all the days of our lives, I and my twin brother were born in a sanctuary. I grew up in God.
Even at the age of 8 years, I have started seeing vision because if people come to me, I will tell them what will happen tomorrow and that tomorrow it will surely happen. In my village all of them know me; at that age I can see a pregnant woman and I will tell her that she is carrying a baby boy or girl in her womb. At the age of 12, there was a priest they brought to my village . He loved me so much and cherished the gift of God in my life, and the priest is late now. He was the one that told me to never have sex with any woman till l get married. He told me that l will be ministering to multitudes, but l should make sure it’s not Church and the third thing he told me is that, “Ebuka make sure you don’t marry wrongly”. He said I should avoid these three things and God will use me greatly and “whatever you say shall come to pass”.
So, then I was scared and it was even affecting my relationships with my sisters, if they want to come to me I will say no! no! In my school, people started coming to me for prayers, I joined charismatics then, anywhere the Rev. Father is going to break curses. They will call me because I can detect something and they will bring it out. There is nowhere the Rev. Father goes for family liberation without taking me with him. So, it is a gift from the womb. I grew up with it; I never lived a life and said now I’m a born again.
Even when I came to Lagos and l was at St David’s Catholic Church miracle flows, the same thing happened at St. Michael, Obalende in Lagos. I remembered the day one man came to our shop to buy something and he had a very bad wound and it smelled. I just laid my hands on what l sold for him and the next day the wound dried off and that was the end of the wound he has carried for years. So, my life has been with God, I make sure I keep to the Priest warnings, especially not having sex until I get married. This place is bigger than most of the Churches in Nigeria, but it’s not a Church and it remains a prayer ministry. People come here to pray, because that was how God wanted it, and honestly God has been faithful.
This place is a prayer ministry like you said earlier; how are you able to cope with its maintenance despite the challenges?
Let me answer that question by saying that till today, like the Pentecostal Pastors, some of them will say Catholics worship Mary and stop praying to Mary, she is a human being like you. You pray to the Holy Spirit to intervene for you. In John chapter 2, Jesus was invited to an occasion and Mary was also invited and suddenly the wine finished and Mary went to Jesus and said to my son, their wine is finished and Jesus said go woman my hour of miracle has not come. She left Jesus and went to the steward and passed the message and she said whatever he asks you to do, do it. Now, Jesus’ hour of miracle has not come, but Jesus did that miracle because the mother persevered and Jesus didn’t have to get angry.
So, Jesus broke his own agreement with heaven because his mother had asked him. If you read the book of Luke Chapter I, the angel appeared to her and hailed Mary, the Lord is with you. The rosary that Catholics pray with is in the Bible, the angel says, “Hail Mary, the Lord is with you”, and Mary was surprised on what sort of salutation is this. The angel said “you are going to conceive and have a son”, and Mary answered, “How can they do that? I don’t know any man” and the angel said “don’t worry, the power of the Most High will overshadow you”, and Mary said “so be it according to your word”. And the angel said “even your sister Elizabeth, they thought she cannot have a child, is now six months pregnant.” Elizabeth shouted and said “how happy I am that my Lord has come to visit me, immediately I heard your voice, the baby in my womb started jumping up for joy”. So, even the baby in her womb recognizes the importance of Mary.
Holy Mary is a blessing to all women and this is why it is written for this reason all generations call me blessed. So, if you are not calling her blessed that means you don’t know your Bible. These Pastors are just misconstruing the whole thing, Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus Christ is our Lord
Can you elaborate more on the ministry?
As I said earlier, it is not a church rather a praying ministry. People will come even in the night to look for me for prayers, some are helplessly sick. When I was living in Surulere, Lagos, my landlord would ask me “Ebuka, why are people trooping in here to look for you?” They will be threatening me, but I thank God that today the ministry has come to stay. There is no plan to make it a church, I’m not called to baptize rather to be an ordinary servant of God, in the missionary field, the field of salvation, in the prophetic field, the field of working in miracles and teaching salvation. Muslim brother comes here to pray and I’m just a prophet of God.
What’s your plan for the Nigerian Youths?
Well, if you come around here you will see what we have been doing. Honestly, since last year till date I have transformed about 800 prostitutes and by the special grace of God, we are helping them getting a job. Even some of them have kids. We have a foundation that caters for those issues, like now we are starting the project from Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Ebony, Abia, Delta, and Rivers State. We are starting with these seven states, then before we also move on to Lagos, Plateau, Kaduna and all over the federation. We want to have a psychiatric home in the whole Nigeria because some of the causes of this issue are frustration. So, Ebuka’s Psychiatric Foundation is starting with the Anambra project. We will build a psychiatric home and have a bus moving around all over Anambra State, the same thing to Imo, Rivers and other four states. So, we have a lot for the youths to make sure they are happy.
What is your vision for this fasting programme?
God has been saying so many things to me which have been translated to books and whatever tells me I will do. The Lord told me that I am the voice of the people and you must speak. You know God can use a woman to help people, she may not be a Bishop, but she can be given a power of revelation. It is not easy to stand against men; it takes the power of God. There was a message from a boy called Emeka playing football in the UK and they told a girl to accuse him and he was jailed, I saw the vision, I prayed for him and he was released.
If you have an opportunity to meet our leaders what will you tell them?
The thing is for the 2023 election, Nigerians should pray very well. So, if I have a chance to meet the leaders which I’m meeting, I used to tell them the simple truth, but they are adamant people. In South Africa, leaders are much respected because of their integrity. I went to a Mall in Johannesburg and I saw people kissing the statues of Nelson Mandela. So, whatever you do is what you would be remembered for, I always tell them to do something and leave a legacy. The best way to be happy is to do something that when you leave office your name will be remembered positively; and whoever does evil will never go without being punished. If you come to me and I pray for you, but that doesn’t stop me from telling you the truth because you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
I thank you all for coming, thank you for being here for the first time and pray that God will further elongate our relationship and make it mutual.